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Post by Ryan Ro [NAPW] on Oct 31, 2005 2:43:48 GMT -5
Hey everybody,
well, with the first results in the bag, I'd like to open it up to feedback. I want to know what you like about the NAPW. The site design, the way things are laid out, the overall structure.
Is there anything that's confusing? or you would like to see differently?
This is your fed, too, so if you have any comments of suggestions please bring them here!
Let's rock from here on out!
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Static
Indie Wrestler
The Undisputed Truth
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Post by Static on Oct 31, 2005 14:19:45 GMT -5
The writing of the show was very good, as were the roleplays this week. Good job to everyone on that end. I like the rankings on the front page, however, I would remove those tag teams that don't exist. I'd just put a little dash instead. Tag teams are supposed to have that chemistry, you know, that makes them so much better than two singles wrestlers tagging. Likewise, tag members probably shouldn't do so well in singles situations. However, sometimes it's necessary... that's why you're the booker and I'm the wrestler. The website itself looks nice. I'd stay without a graphic for everything except perhaps a ppv logo. Once again, big ups to all for a good first week.
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Post by Stylin' Kyle Roberts [REBEL] on Oct 31, 2005 17:05:57 GMT -5
Hey, I'm not minding the occasional singles match for the tag teams now and then. As long as there's a reason for them (and I can understand why Fixer might be wanting a piece of me), and as long as it's not a matter of every tag team match giving birth to, say, four singles matches between the four involved.
That said, it's a matter of bringing more wrestlers into the fed, which I'm sure will happen over time. And I welcome the occasional singles collaboration when it comes to tag team matches. I was actually going to suggest a few non-title matches for D-X for a while, really build up the title matches that way. Perhaps a six-man tag, or some tag Three Ways?
By the way, is there any reward for the Three Way Dance? Any sort of incentive for the winner, other than beating the hell out of the other two? Like I said, I can see why Roberts and Fixer would feud, but I haven't seen a reason for Static to be thrown in that sort of explosive situation.
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Post by The Decapitators on Oct 31, 2005 18:51:28 GMT -5
I agree with static we should definitalely not have the singles wrestlers as tag teams unless they truly are tagging because my other, heel, character Lobo is probably not the best tag wrestler since he seems only interesed in singles titles and basically hates everybody (like a neutral wrestler who always seems to be boo'd). Probabily once NAPW starts flying and theres more than six heel wrestlers (two being a tag) he might be become interested in some tag gold... You'll just have to wait and see. By the way making Lobo lose was a smart move, I sort of wanted him to start at the bottom and work his way up.
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Ravager
Indie Wrestler
The Shooter
0% Avatar, 100% Ass Kicker. The White Collar Assassin Is On The Path Of Annihilation
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Post by Ravager on Oct 31, 2005 20:01:42 GMT -5
I think teaming two singles wrestlers is okay, but it needs to be built up. Though the character's handlers would have to work together to forward the angle if they want it to work. Otherwise, this is a lot of fun. Look forward to the future.
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Post by D! on Oct 31, 2005 21:45:56 GMT -5
My two cents while I'm taking a break at work . . . not that I mind, particularly, but I'm surprised D!'s title match was coming up so quickly, seeing as 1) that title only has to be defended every two weeks, and 2) "The Number One Contender may challenge for the title at any time." I know I didn't call it.
Not to say that I'm choked up about challenging on Monday as opposed to next week, but these rules could stand some clarifying.
Like I'd mentioned prior . . . fine, FINE match writing. I think every character was well-handled, and considering you had a dozen + characters, that says something. I'm curious: did you jam it all into one night, or have you been slowly building the show up over the week?
More later.
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Post by Ryan Ro [NAPW] on Oct 31, 2005 22:23:53 GMT -5
Cool, thanks a lot for the feedback, and always know I'm open to any concerns or ideas.
I think first, I want to say that a lot of the comments will probably be addressed as the fed grows in size. If you want to help NAPW grow, link us from your web sites, profiles, tell friends, post about it on wrestling forums you're a part of, etc etc. It's all grass-roots, and there are a ton of other feds out there to compete with. I do what I can from my end.
The other thing is that I really want NAPW to function as an interactive game, and I want to see people starting feuds and angles in RPs for me to base cards off of; I also want to see what people do when they're booked into a match against somebody unfamiliar, or tagged up with somebody they have no association with otherwise. I don't think, in the course of an efed, every match has to have a backstory. Backstories develop, but because there's an element of competition matches for the sake of matches will occur. I think it's a great way to get people in the fed interacting, as well. Read all the roleplays, or at least scan and look to see if your name is mentioned...
TAG TEAMS In general I want to keep tag teams as TAG TEAMS. I agree with Kyle Roberts on the "tag team match giving birth to four singles match" deal. I personally LOVE tag team wrestling and I don't want to resort to WWE formula for tag team title matchs. (ie, non-title match for a shot, then all the members engage in singles contests leading up to the title shot. Again, a concern that will be fixed by more members. I will definitely work to bolster the tag scene and give wrestlers shots at gold by pairing up two singles wrestlers. Trying to find some common reason...alliances set up in RPs, mutual respect, etc. I'll try to really make it work for the characters though.
TITLE MATCHES My thing with title matches is this: I want them to be important, but at the same time I want titles to be defended regularly. The number one contender/challenge rule is there to enhance the gameplay... I know there'll eventually be a heel champion who puts off a title defense as long as possible and makes some inane stipulation to give himself the advantage. I'd even be ok if a heel champion came on the promo board and said that he refused to defend his title when he was scheduled.
In general, though, I will book title matches regularly. The challenge system is not the bottom line... Again with avoiding WWE formula...I want to avoid doing the non-title match, then having champ/challenger tag up with other faces/heels for a tag match, etc to the title shot. It's okay sometimes but not all the time. So more title defenses in general = titles change hands relatively frequently. It's a tough thing finding a mix between a good angle while still maintaining the competition aspect. And I really do want there to be a level of competition in the fed, so there's a point to our roleplays. Sides, I want there to be room for a rookie to challenge for the NAPW Title, and have a champion accept it for the heck of it... and possibly lose.
The thing is, I'd prefer to take everything show by show, based on roleplays, instead of plotting things out by weeks or months. Which is why angles and feuds need to built through roleplays and not just what happens on the card. Make it interactive and make things happen!
Ultimately the identity of the NAPW and even some of how it functions is defined by all of you who play here. And if some things change as we go, that's great. =)
PS D!: I wrote the show last night from about 8-12. I took an hour in the middle and finished a book, then went back to it. I was checking the RP board frequently for last minute roleplays that might have affected match outcomes. =D
Hope this helps, the feedback is appreciated!
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Post by Ryan Ro [NAPW] on Oct 31, 2005 22:28:51 GMT -5
Oh yeah, and another thing: With the title shots that were won at the first show, I think I view them as specifically "immediate title SHOTS" and less number one contender slots, although for simplicity's sake I made the winners number one contenders. The rankings will move, and then instead of booking a title match, I want to see things like the no.1 contender making an immediate challenge before say, the rankings can change again.
The rankings are arbitrary and are based on a number of things. Winning, of course. Specifically winning over the wrestler a step above you...doing a killer roleplay, working a good feud, angle's sake, momentum... etc.
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Post by Stylin' Kyle Roberts [REBEL] on Oct 31, 2005 23:09:56 GMT -5
I know there'll eventually be a heel champion who puts off a title defense as long as possible and makes some inane stipulation to give himself the advantage. I'd even be ok if a heel champion came on the promo board and said that he refused to defend his title when he was scheduled. Eventually? I was planning on protesting the first time a tag team championship match was even MENTIONED!
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Post by Ryan Ro [NAPW] on Nov 10, 2005 12:40:25 GMT -5
Welcome to all the new people, old or young, veteran or rookie. Hopefully you're all going to have fun in the NAPW! Any comments or concerns please post in this thread!
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